Friday, October 14, 2005

IIPM, Indian politics, and why Government of India websites are so fun

Ok, just to relieve the tedium a bit, and make this more interesting, here are some fun facts about IIPM and its founder Dr. Malay Chaudhuri. This is the sort of havoc that's unleashed when you provide a graduate student with an absentee advisor, lots of caffeine and a fabulous ethernet connection. So let the fun times roll!


Now here's an absolute gem. Apparently Dr. Malay Chaudhuri started his own political party and in the 2004 elections even fought an election himself from the Balasore Lok Sabha seat in Orissa. Why Orissa you ask? Well senior Chaudhuri was born and raised in Orissa that's why. The party is/was called Bharatiya Manavata Vikas Party (Indian Humanism/Humanity Development Party), and let the puns on the name begin! And not to be a nitpicker, but Mssrs Chaudhuri, if you please, Manavata Vikas does not translate as Human Development. Human Development is Manaviya Vikas or Manav Vikas.

The party was apparently started in 2001, as a continuation of the Manav Seva Kendras started by IIPM in the 1980s in West Bengal and Orissa. Now I was fairly strongly involved with the voluntary and social development sector in India throughout the mid and late 1990s, but honestly, I do not remember ever coming across such any mention of such Manav Seva Kendras. Just to be sure, I checked the voluntary organization database by the Planning Commission, India. No, no mention there (but that might be because they folded up).

But I was the editor for one of the most comprehensive directories for NGOs in India and their fields of operation, and I don't remember a mention of Manav Seva Kendra. I had worked for an organization in the late 1990s that ran a very successful rural mobilization programme in Bankura, West Bengal and never was Manav Seva Kendra mentioned. And it would have been mentioned, considering the fact that IIPM was fairly well known in Delhi even in those days.

Anyway, so the symbol of the party is a book, and their USP is facilitating the entry of professionals into politics. Hence, a curious candidate recruting process involving newspaper ads (media savvy all the way) and interviews. Only graduates to be given party tickets (I'm sure they verified that the claims of candidates regarding their degrees were genuine :) ). There are articles about the party here and here, and do take the time to check out the election promises and manifesto, they are particularly amusing.

And now you must be curious to know the record of the party. Well it seems even though most of the press coverage of the party dates to the 2004 general election, the senior Prof. Chaudhuri did contest one election almost immediately after forming his party (or did he form the party for the purposes of fighting the election?). This was the Midnapore by-election in May 2001 necessitated by the demise of the late, great Indrajit Gupta. Needless to say, since management principles can never deliver a surefire way to win an Indian election, Prof. Chaudhuri lost and was placed last among the candidates.

And confirming my impression and assertion that government websites are an absolute goldmine of information, if you only know where to look, just check out what I found. Of course every candidate has to submit an affidavit declaring his/her total movable and immovable assets, and the Election Commission in it's infinitely tech-savvy avatar, has made this information available online. I would certainly encourage others to make use of this info and check out the asset declarations of local politicians and then try and match it up with they know about them. That'll be a super fun game to play.

Anyway, focussing on Dr. Chaudhuri, here is is declaration of assets. Here is a relevant page, and another one. Apparently, not only does Dr. Malay Chaudhuri not own a car, but the only house he owns is one worth Rs. 2 lakh (approx $4500)in Uttar Para, Nadia (a small suburban town close to Calcutta) where he shares ownership with his daughter. Contrast this with the Jaguar and BMW that Arindam Chaudhuri allegedly has, and you think, damn, the old man is having it rough! Sure he does have around Rs. 22 lakhs (approx $49000) as bank deposits and savings but those are supposed to be the savings of a lifetime, small change for a man who was the Director of a major management institute till recently.

(Copyright: Election Commission of India)

And here is one of the most interesting parts of the story. Here's the part of the affidvit that declares Dr. Malay Chaudhuri's educational record. I reproduce verbatim:

Ram Krishan Mission Jamshedpur High Secondary 1953
Presidency College, Calcutta University BA (Hons) 1957
Berlin School of Economics M.Sc. 1962
Berlin School of Economics Ph.D. 1963
Berlin School of Economics D.Sc. 1970

(Copyright: Election Commission of India)

Ok, this is on record. And very, very easy to verify. So Presidency alumni (you know who you are), jog up your alumni networks and try and see if the Presidency connection can be verified. About the Berlin part, I'm still trying to make sense of this one. I know the German system is kinda strange, but a PhD in one year! And the Berlin School of Economics states that it started in 1971 on its website (are they lying?). Perhaps it existed in another incarnation before morphing into the Berlin School of Economics in its present form? Is there another Berlin School of Economics? The mind boggles.

So this is how the IIPM and Chaudhuri saga stands so far. I'm raring to dig more, but I'm hungry and I strongly suspect I'm hypoglycemic, and so food must be consumed. Watch the space for more updates

Disclaimer: I'm grateful to Navin for pointing this out. I submit that the information reproduced here (with credit and URL reference to the Election Commission website) is solely for information and research purposes. Also, the information in the documents have not been altered and modified in anyway, and the quotes have been reproduced verbatim.

Update: Here is a great post by Sumeet that clarifies some of the things that I've always vaguely known about the German education system. Saves me the trouble of having to email German friends.

138 Comments:

Blogger Sriram said...

Startling similarity in the opening lines of your post and mine titled "Project Mayhem" ;).. guess they shouldn't mess with grad students with a high-speed internet connection :D..

3:28 PM  
Anonymous Sanity Starved said...

Super! That's an A+ for utilization of grad time :D

That was good stuff reading too!

3:34 PM  
Blogger Urmea said...

Ohhh great job Swati! Seriously if you'd put in this much creativity and enthu into your dissertation... we would all be deprived of your lovely blog :)

3:39 PM  
Blogger Adagio For Strings said...

Damn woman you seem to be having fun ;)! I shudder to think what havoc you will wreck once the freedom of information act gets up about and kicking!!!

5:50 PM  
Blogger thalassa_mikra said...

Hi Sriram, welcome! My thoughts are with the Chaudhuri clan. I'm sure they had no clue as to the "mayhem" they were unleashing!

Pidus, thank you! I fulfil grad student duties of research and fact finding even in my off time.

Urmi, seriously if that was the case I would have graduated two years ago. But as you said, it's fun being a grad student, so why bother. And can you see my blog blush, it likes people noticing how purrty it is :)!

Adagio, let me tell you, this whole business of electronic paper trail is remarkable. With the Right to Information thingie, I don't think too many people will get away with dubious "doctorate" from Germany.

7:51 PM  
Blogger K said...

This is deadly stuff!

11:46 PM  
Blogger Soumyadip said...

Some dirt-digger you are! And we are basking in the exposed filth. Good work! Hope this entire episode doesn't end with 'I, I, Pee on 'em' alone and the blog warriors dig deeper elsewhere. There's a lot of muck around.

11:48 PM  
Blogger Bonatellis said...

my dad was in presidency those days ... he's never heard of him ... now that's very unusual as he knows most of the folks who were there around that time ... but let him ask around in the alumni circuit for the next couple of days ...

12:49 AM  
Blogger Abi said...

Hey, this is absolutely great stuff! Good work, and as someone has already said here, you deserve an A+.

(Couldn't resist adding this aside: may your advisor not come back for some more time!)

1:05 AM  
Blogger Gamesmaster G9 said...

Oh Jesus - please, please, please tell me he's not a Presidencian.

1:09 AM  
Blogger Jabberwock said...

Excellent work, thanks.

1:25 AM  
Anonymous ashwin said...

good stuff!!!
wonder what IIPM students/management have to say abt this!! oh, probably they will just send you a notice !!!
IIPM joke cell, i think thats what its called.

1:32 AM  
Blogger Mridula said...

Wonderful stuff. I am linking to it!

2:14 AM  
Blogger K said...

Swati, I'm pretty sure our friends from Presi are getting active now. However, about the Berlin thingie - I have a funny feeling that he'll suddenly calim that he did his D.Sc at the defunct East/West Berlin School - one must have gotten defunct.

2:17 AM  
Blogger Mridula said...

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2:30 AM  
Blogger Sleepyface said...

neat job. keep going.

2:50 AM  
Anonymous tony said...

One Year Phd. I always wanted to have a Dr. in front of my name. I guess Berlin School of Economics would be the Answer. how glad my father would be..

And Sweta, you did a great job digging this up rather than just writing another IIPM post. Nice work.

3:01 AM  
Blogger shrikanth said...

well,well,well.....
I'm wondering as to how he managed to get a professorship at IIMB with such dubious antecedents...
Goes to show that IIMB's faculty recruitment process during those early years left a lot to be desired.

3:03 AM  
Blogger K said...

Sorry for bumping up your comment count (not that I think you'll mind too much) however there are a couple of rather strange things - the first is still the Berlin School of Economics thing. I'll call them up on Monday and actually ask them. Secondly - both his wife and daughter have NO jewellery. They are a Bong family where the women own NO jewellery. Whiskey tango Foxtrot?????

4:11 AM  
Blogger Sandeep said...

Oh, my god.....that was some work girl....ok, here are some more

Did NASA really send a man to the moon?
Who killed Kennedy?
What about the Bermuda Triangle?Is it for real?

We're waiting , lady...mine these out and blog on

4:23 AM  
Blogger sd said...

Wonderful Post!

10:01 AM  
Blogger Bonatellis said...

who killed kennedy?

are the chaudhuris now claiming they killed kennedy too??!!

10:03 AM  
Blogger Navin said...

Hi, nice post...I was looking for something like this...anyway went and visited the website and there is a disclaimer and copyright notice put there...the link is here
http://www.eci.gov.in/CopyRight_fs.htm

what it means is you cannot put his ed record on ur blog without putting the copyright notice given by the election commision of india...so do add that too...before it backfires...good work by the way....did you get a chance to look at the IMI website...which is affiliated to IIPM...looks like one more hoax in Antwerp..I like the one in which there is photos of students...I would be love to be in such a place...booze, hokaas(the one in turkey)...what an institute man...not one picture of anyone studying or of the university or even a library...in similar terms...faculty(has no degrees) no names...but best faculty...I am thinking of giving a PhD to laloo in animal science, then start a university, then make him the dean of my university.

10:44 AM  
Blogger thalassa_mikra said...

K, Thanks! You inspire, we follow :)

Hi Soumyadip, let's hope that there is an entire festival of dirt-digging over this!

Bonatellis, thanks to your Dad for taking this up with the alumni circuit. I have family that attended Presidency around that time as well. I'll see if I can get a hold of them.

Hi Abi, Welcome and thanks! As for the advisor, he comes back soon and then it's back to the grind!

Ani, that's precisely what he claims in a sworn affidavit to the Election Commission of India.

Thanks Jai.

Hi Ashwin, I would love to know what the IIPM management would say about this.


Thanks Mridula, you're doing great work on the issue on your blog. And for some reason, a favourite target of IIPM commenters.

12:32 PM  
Blogger thalassa_mikra said...

K, I think that is certainly possible. Daddy and Ponytail are past masters at this spin-doctor thingy.

Thanks Vish.

Tony, now you know where to go. I'm surprised Dr. Chaudhuri didn't spread the good word about one-year PhDs rather than keeping it to himself all these years.

Shrikanth, now someone has to get down to exploring the IIMB antecedents as well right? Along with claims of having taught at XLRI Jamshedpur, XIM Bhuvaneshwar and founding the management programme at IMT, Ghaziabad (an excellent management school by the way, in defence of private management education in India)

K, bring the comments on!! I'm as astounded as you are! That's an absurdity. I detest gold jewellery and I still own some. Even if you don't buy any for yourself, there's hierloom and gifts.

Sandeep, I humbly submit that the murky intrigue that is IIPM tops anything that NASA might have come up with.

Thanks SD.

Bonatellis, given the Chaudhuris' claims re World Bank, IMF, UNDP yadda yadda, I wouldn't be surprised.

Navin, Thanks a ton for pointing that out. I have made the necessary additions. As for IMI, honestly, I still haven't made sense of that one. I'm looking into it, and expect a post soon.

12:42 PM  
Blogger 42510 said...

Damn cool stuf.. Here's some more interesting reading...Can some one explain how this is possible?!
http://www.iipm.edu/iipm-history.html says ..”After resigning from Professorship at IIM Bangalore (Indian Institute of Management), Dr. M. K. Chaudhuri established the Institute in 1973. Dr. Chaudhuri, after having been a Professor at XLRI Jamshedpur, XIM Bhubaneshwar, and having been the founder director of management courses at IMT Ghaziabad, took over as Research Professor and founder Director. The first residential full-time Post-Graduate Diploma Programme commenced on 12th August 1974″

And according to http://www.imt.edu/
IMT Ghaziabad was founded IN 1980.

How pray, did Dr. Chaudhuri start
IIPM AFTER being founder director of IMT!?

9:53 AM  
Blogger thalassa_mikra said...

Hi 42510 :), great point! I'm actually willing to give him the benefit of doubt on that one, though that connection deserves some investigation.

IMT is a superior institute, and politically well-connected. If there wasn't a slight sliver of truth in what he's saying, they would have surely gone after him.

Perhaps this is merely a semantic slip-up in the write-up? Unless IMT is unaware of his claims in the first place.

11:13 AM  
Blogger Innocent Bystander said...

Malay jee's seemingly frauds apart, did you notice that many of the promises of his election manifesto are actually being implemented by other parties today?

The Hindu article on his manifesto, for example, talks about free bicycles to poor families (done in MP, CG, Orrissa and AP this year), minimum of 250 hrs of employment (Rural EGS bill), free education upto class X (MP, Rajasthan have made education free for one girl child per family). You gotta give this one to him eh?

Anyhow, look forward to somebody uncovering the truth behind Malay jee's IIMB/XLRI/XIM claims. It could actually be a breakthrough if these institutes go on record dissociating themselves from the old man.

Apurv

2:56 PM  
Blogger Adagio For Strings said...

Alright woman you have milked this post enough for comments now lets hear something new !! :) or is the advisor back in town :D?

11:02 PM  
Blogger Anil said...

I take back every critisism I ever made about the tech-saviness of the Election Commision of India. ECI rocks.

7:02 AM  
Anonymous AB said...

Hey after what seems aeons I am doing my usual quota of blog reading:) Feels nice. Gosh what a lot of research you have put in! But why the interest in the Chaudhari clan?

7:25 AM  
Blogger AB said...

...And Shubho Bijoya!

7:49 AM  
Blogger Gardhabh said...

AICTE will force IIPM to change its name. The word 'Indian' and 'National' are out-of-bounds for all non-governmental bodies. Yoo-hoo.

2:12 PM  
Blogger thalassa_mikra said...

Hi Innocent Bystander, I will certainly give him credit for the free education for girls bit. As for rural employment guarantees, the past versions of such programmes were what promoted the notorious Rajiv Gandhi speech about 85 per cent of development funds being lost to corruption.

And according to a commenter on 42510's latest post, it seems the IIMB claim is a logical impossibility as well

http://whencorneredconfuse.blogspot.com/

Adagio, and your weekly output of posts is how much exactly :)?

Anil, I concur.

AB, welcome back and Shubho Bijoya to you too. I have no personal vendetta against the Chaudhuri clan, and have never known anyone even remotely connected with them. But I do find them fascinating ;)

Gardabh (:)) thanks for the news. Wonder what accounts for AICTE's silence on the matter all these years.

6:11 PM  
Blogger 42510 said...

Agree with you.. could be a semantic slip up. But then some one pointed out, that XIMB was founded in 1987. That makes it two semantic mistakes :)
Given their dubious track record, who knows.. :) Add the IIMB thing- that makes it three ..!! :D

12:05 PM  
Blogger suzunita said...

Hi ! I just entered the blogging world...and found this raging topic of IIPM. I really appreciate your research in this matter, but what I don't understand is why is the father of Arindam chaudhury being dragged into all this. Being an outsider to this whole thing, I feel really bad about this because even though his son fellow might be a cheat, how is it that this guy is being scrutinized. I mean, come on even for an extrme case, is it right to punish the family of a criminal, for something he/she did? Well, I don't about the involvement of Choudhury senior in this whole IIPM, business, but if he is not, then it is not fair to drag a fellow in old age for his son's doings, otherwise it is totally justified.
Also, a theory about higher education: what if this senior fellow got a Masters on the way to doctorate (like many US student do). One of my fellow grad students have been here for last 5 years, and decided to just get the masters last year because she is elligible for it ( you know number of courses, papers), and because it brings the department more money ( some weird univ policy about number of degrees proportional to money). And now she would be getting her phD this year. So, effectively she would be getting her PhD in one year if you look at it the way you did; i.e. if you don't check her start date ( MS.,2004, PhD,2005, but hey she started in 2000, that won't be in the record). So for all you know this chudhuri senior might have started from 1960, and got MS in 2 years (1962), and PhD in 3 years (pretty common europe, though rare in US)

5:53 PM  
Blogger Gautam Ghosh said...

umm, asked a prof of mine who did some digging up at XL and found that news is true for a change...but somewhere around the late 70s ...!

Umm, doesn't make me so proud of my alu mutter anymore :(

3:43 AM  
Blogger thalassa_mikra said...

42510, yes the slip-ups are just too frequent to be coincidental.

Suznita, the reason why Chaudhuri senior's record is important is because he founded the institution and remains the nominal head (as far as I know). Arindam is merely the Dean of a division. And as Sumeet's post shows, the German system is very different from the American, and the scope for a simultaneous Masters/PhD does not exist. Besides, Shivangi emailed the Berlin School and they deny offering the programmes that Dr. Malay Chaudhuri claims he graduated with.

Gautam, remember this was way back in the 1970s, when management education in India was in its infancy. I wouldn't hold this against XLRI! I'm sure the seasoning in your alu mutter is fine.

12:06 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is Arindham Chauduri related to Malay? In the big one page ads, there are gyan articles written by Malay but comments on it are supposed to be sent to Arindham?!

8:24 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Facinating stuff you have uncovered on Sr. But wot about Professor Ponytail's credentials? Where is the BA, MA, Economist training from? This is truly the Great Indian Tamasha!

1:58 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

According to IIMB sources, Malay C. was in IIMB for less than a month. He was appointed as a liason officer in Delhi and never set foot in IIMB. Obviously he never taught anything at IIMB. How he can be considered as an eminent professor of IIMB is anybody's guess. Probably was a clerk at XLRI - after all he did his schooling at Jamshedpur and may have got a job there.

3:22 AM  
Anonymous Online Wong PoKér Hu said...

I agree with you that assets of election candidates or current politicians should be accessible online.

2:04 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Your website is beautiful, informative and Excellant.


Article by M.P. Bhattathiri, Retired Chief Technical Examiner , to The Govt. of Kerala. Humble request that it may be published in your website and magazine after editing if necessary.





Bhagavad Gita and management

Mind is very restless, forceful and strong, O Krishna, it is more difficult to control the mind than to control the wind ~ Arjuna to Sri Krishna
Introduction
The ancient Hindu philosophy of keepiing mind and body for the well being, has entered the managerial, medical and judicial domain of the world. Today it has found its place as an alternative to the theory of modern management and also as a means to bring back the right path of peace and prosperity for the human beings. One of the greatest contributions of India to the world is Holy Gita which is considered to be one of the first revelations from God. The Bhagavad-Gita is the essence of Vedic Literature and a complete guide to practical life. It provides “all that is needed to raise the consciousness of man to the highest possible level.” , reveals the deep, universal truths of life that speak to the needs and aspirations of everyone. Arjuna got mentally depressed when he saw his relatives with whom he has to fight.( Mental health has become a major international public health concern now). To motivate him the Bhagavad Gita is preached in the battle field Kurukshetra by Lord Krishna to Arjuna as a counseling to do his duty while multitudes of men stood by waiting . It has got all the management tactics to achieve the mental equilibrium and to overcome any crisis situation. The Bhagavad Gita can be experienced as a powerful catalyst for transformation. Bhagavad gita means song of the Spirit, song of the Lord. The Holy Gita has become a secret driving force behind the unfoldment of one's life. In the days of doubt this divine book will support all spiritual search.This divine book will contribute to self reflection, finer feeling and deepen one's inner process. Then life in the world can become a real education—dynamic, full and joyful—no matter what the circumstance. May the wisdom of loving consciousness ever guide us on our journey. What makes the Holy Gita a practical psychology of transformation is that it offers us the tools to connect with our deepest intangible essence and we must learn to participate in the battle of life with right knowledge.
The Holy Gita is the essence of the Vedas, Upanishads. It is a universal scripture applicable to people of all temperaments and for all times. It is a book with sublime thoughts and practical instructions on Yoga, Devotion, Vedanta and Action. It is profound in thought and sublime in heights of vision. It brings peace and solace to souls that are afflicted by the three fires of mortal existence, namely, afflictions caused by one’s own body (disease etc), those caused by beings around one (e.g. wild animals, snakes etc.), and those caused by the gods (natural disasters, earth-quakes, floods etc).

Mind can be one's friend or enemy. Mind is the cause for both bondage and liberation. The word mind is derived from man to think and the word man derived from manu (sanskrit word for man).
"The Supreme Lord is situated in everyone's heart, O Arjuna, and is directing the wanderings of all living entities, who are seated as on a machine, made of the material energy."
There is no theory to be internalized and applied in this psychology. Ancient practices spontaneously induce what each person needs as the individual and the universal coincide. The work proceeds through intellectual knowledge of the playing field(jnana yoga), emotional devotion to the ideal(bhakti yoga) and right action that includes both feeling and knowledge(karma yoga). With ongoing purification we approach wisdom. The Bhagavad Gita is a message addressed to each and every human individual to help him or her to solve the vexing problem of overcoming the present and progressing towards a bright future. Within its eighteen chapters is revealed a human drama. This is the experience of everyone in this world, the drama of the ascent of man from a state of utter dejection, sorrow and total breakdown and hopelessness to a state of perfect understanding, clarity, renewed strength and triumph.
Introduction
Management has become a part and parcel of everyday life, be it at home, in the office or factory and in Government. In all organizations, where a group of human beings assemble for a common purpose, management principles come into play through the management of resources, finance and planning, priorities, policies and practice. Management is a systematic way of carrying out activities in any field of human effort.
Its task is to make people capable of joint performance, to make their weaknesses irrelevant, says the Management Guru Peter Drucker. It creates harmony in working together - equilibrium in thoughts and actions, goals and achievements, plans and performance, products and markets. It resolves situations of scarcity, be they in the physical, technical or human fields, through maximum utilization with the minimum available processes to achieve the goal. Lack of management causes disorder, confusion, wastage, delay, destruction and even depression. Managing men, money and materials in the best possible way, according to circumstances and environment, is the most important and essential factor for a successful management.
Management guidelines from the Bhagavad Gita
There is an important distinction between effectiveness and efficiency in managing.
· Effectiveness is doing the right things.
· Efficiency is doing things right.
The general principles of effective management can be applied in every field, the differences being more in application than in principle. The Manager's functions can be summed up as:
· Forming a vision
· Planning the strategy to realise the vision.
· Cultivating the art of leadership.
· Establishing institutional excellence.
· Building an innovative organisation.
· Developing human resources.
· Building teams and teamwork.
· Delegation, motivation, and communication.
· Reviewing performance and taking corrective steps when called for.
Thus, management is a process of aligning people and getting them committed to work for a common goal to the maximum social benefit - in search of excellence.
The critical question in all managers’ minds is how to be effective in their job. The answer to this fundamental question is found in the Bhagavad Gita, which repeatedly proclaims that “you must try to manage yourself.” The reason is that unless a manager reaches a level of excellence and effectiveness, he or she will be merely a face in the crowd.
Old truths in a new context
The Bhagavad Gita, written thousands of years ago, enlightens us on all managerial techniques leading us towards a harmonious and blissful state of affairs in place of the conflict, tensions, poor productivity, absence of motivation and so on, common in most of Indian enterprises today – and probably in enterprises in many other countries.
The modern (Western) management concepts of vision, leadership, motivation, excellence in work, achieving goals, giving work meaning, decision making and planning, are all discussed in the Bhagavad Gita. There is one major difference. While Western management thought too often deals with problems at material, external and peripheral levels, the Bhagavad Gita tackles the issues from the grass roots level of human thinking. Once the basic thinking of man is improved, it will automatically enhance the quality of his actions and their results.
The management philosophy emanating from the West, is based on the lure of materialism and on a perennial thirst for profit, irrespective of the quality of the means adopted to achieve that goal. This phenomenon has its source in the abundant wealth of the West and so 'management by materialism' has caught the fancy of all the countries the world over, India being no exception to this trend. My country, India, has been in the forefront in importing these ideas mainly because of its centuries old indoctrination by colonial rulers, which has inculcated in us a feeling that anything Western is good and anything Indian is inferior.
The result is that, while huge funds have been invested in building temples of modem management education, no perceptible changes are visible in the improvement of the general quality of life - although the standards of living of a few has gone up. The same old struggles in almost all sectors of the economy, criminalisation of institutions, social violence, exploitation and other vices are seen deep in the body politic.
The source of the problem
The reasons for this sorry state of affairs are not far to seek. The Western idea of management centres on making the worker (and the manager) more efficient and more productive. Companies offer workers more to work more, produce more, sell more and to stick to the organisation without looking for alternatives. The sole aim of extracting better and more work from the worker is to improve the bottom-line of the enterprise. The worker has become a hireable commodity, which can be used, replaced and discarded at will.
Thus, workers have been reduced to the state of a mercantile product. In such a state, it should come as no surprise to us that workers start using strikes (gheraos) sit-ins, (dharnas) go-slows, work-to-rule etc. to get maximum benefit for themselves from the organisations. Society-at-large is damaged. Thus we reach a situation in which management and workers become separate and contradictory entities with conflicting interests. There is no common goal or understanding. This, predictably, leads to suspicion, friction, disillusion and mistrust, with managers and workers at cross purposes. The absence of human values and erosion of human touch in the organisational structure has resulted in a crisis of confidence.
Western management philosophy may have created prosperity – for some people some of the time at least - but it has failed in the aim of ensuring betterment of individual life and social welfare. It has remained by and large a soulless edifice and an oasis of plenty for a few in the midst of poor quality of life for many.
Hence, there is an urgent need to re-examine prevailing management disciplines - their objectives, scope and content. Management should be redefined to underline the development of the worker as a person, as a human being, and not as a mere wage-earner. With this changed perspective, management can become an instrument in the process of social, and indeed national, development.
Now let us re-examine some of the modern management concepts in the light of the Bhagavad Gita which is a primer of management-by-values.
Utilisation of available resources
The first lesson of management science is to choose wisely and utilise scarce resources optimally. During the curtain raiser before the Mahabharata War, Duryodhana chose Sri Krishna's large army for his help while Arjuna selected Sri Krishna's wisdom for his support. This episode gives us a clue as to the nature of the effective manager - the former chose numbers, the latter, wisdom.
Work commitment
A popular verse of the Gita advises “detachment” from the fruits or results of actions performed in the course of one's duty. Being dedicated work has to mean “working for the sake of work, generating excellence for its own sake.” If we are always calculating the date of promotion or the rate of commission before putting in our efforts, then such work is not detached. It is not “generating excellence for its own sake” but working only for the extrinsic reward that may (or may not) result.
Working only with an eye to the anticipated benefits, means that the quality of performance of the current job or duty suffers - through mental agitation of anxiety for the future. In fact, the way the world works means that events do not always respond positively to our calculations and hence expected fruits may not always be forthcoming. So, the Gita tells us not to mortgage present commitment to an uncertain future.
Some people might argue that not seeking the business result of work and actions, makes one unaccountable. In fact, the Bhagavad Gita is full of advice on the theory of cause and effect, making the doer responsible for the consequences of his deeds. While advising detachment from the avarice of selfish gains in discharging one's accepted duty, the Gita does not absolve anybody of the consequences arising from discharge of his or her responsibilities.
Thus the best means of effective performance management is the work itself. Attaining this state of mind (called “nishkama karma”) is the right attitude to work because it prevents the ego, the mind, from dissipation of attention through speculation on future gains or losses.
Motivation – self and self-transcendence
It has been presumed for many years that satisfying lower order needs of workers - adequate food, clothing and shelter, etc. are key factors in motivation. However, it is a common experience that the dissatisfaction of the clerk and of the Director is identical - only their scales and composition vary. It should be true that once the lower-order needs are more than satisfied, the Director should have little problem in optimising his contribution to the organisation and society. But more often than not, it does not happen like that. (“The eagle soars high but keeps its eyes firmly fixed on the dead animal below.”) On the contrary, a lowly paid schoolteacher, or a self-employed artisan, may well demonstrate higher levels of self-actualisation despite poorer satisfaction of their lower-order needs.
This situation is explained by the theory of self-transcendence propounded in the Gita. Self-transcendence involves renouncing egoism, putting others before oneself, emphasising team work, dignity, co-operation, harmony and trust – and, indeed potentially sacrificing lower needs for higher goals, the opposite of Maslow.
“Work must be done with detachment.” It is the ego that spoils work and the ego is the centrepiece of most theories of motivation. We need not merely a theory of motivation but a theory of inspiration.
The Great Indian poet, Rabindranath Tagore (1861-1941, known as "Gurudev") says working for love is freedom in action. A concept which is described as “disinterested work" in the Gita where Sri Krishna says,
“He who shares the wealth generated only after serving the people, through work done as a sacrifice for them, is freed from all sins. On the contrary those who earn wealth only for themselves, eat sins that lead to frustration and failure.”
Disinterested work finds expression in devotion, surrender and equipoise. The former two are psychological while the third is determination to keep the mind free of the dualistic (usually taken to mean "materialistic") pulls of daily experiences. Detached involvement in work is the key to mental equanimity or the state of “nirdwanda.” This attitude leads to a stage where the worker begins to feel the presence of the Supreme Intelligence guiding the embodied individual intelligence. Such de-personified intelligence is best suited for those who sincerely believe in the supremacy of organisational goals as compared to narrow personal success and achievement.
Work culture
An effective work culture is about vigorous and arduous efforts in pursuit of given or chosen tasks. Sri Krishna elaborates on two types of work culture – “daivi sampat” or divine work culture and “asuri sampat” or demonic work culture.
· Daivi work culture - involves fearlessness, purity, self-control, sacrifice, straightforwardness, self-denial, calmness, absence of fault-finding, absence of greed, gentleness, modesty, absence of envy and pride.
· Asuri work culture - involves egoism, delusion, personal desires, improper performance, work not oriented towards service.
Mere work ethic is not enough. The hardened criminal exhibits an excellent work ethic. What is needed is a work ethic conditioned by ethics in work.
It is in this light that the counsel, “yogah karmasu kausalam” should be understood. “Kausalam” means skill or technique of work which is an indispensable component of a work ethic. “Yogah” is defined in the Gita itself as “samatvam yogah uchyate” meaning an unchanging equipoise of mind (detachment.) Tilak tells us that acting with an equable mind is Yoga.
(Bal Gangadhar Tilak, 1856-1920, the precursor of Gandhiji, hailed by the people of India as "Lokmanya," probably the most learned among the country's political leaders. For a description of the meanings of the word "Yoga", see foot of this page.)
By making the equable mind the bed-rock of all actions, the Gita evolved the goal of unification of work ethic with ethics in work, for without ethical process no mind can attain an equipoise. The guru, Adi Sankara (born circa 800 AD), says that the skill necessary in the performance of one's duty is that of maintaining an evenness of mind in face of success and failure. The calm mind in the face of failure will lead to deeper introspection and see clearly where the process went wrong so that corrective steps could be taken to avoid shortcomings in future.
The principle of reducing our attachment to personal gains from the work done is the Gita’s prescription for attaining equanimity. It has been held that this principle leads to lack of incentive for effort, striking at the very root of work ethic. To the contrary, concentration on the task for its own sake leads to the achievement of excellence – and indeed to the true mental happiness of the worker. Thus, while commonplace theories of motivation may be said to lead us to the bondage or extrinsic rewards, the Gita’s principle leads us to the intrinsic rewards of mental, and indeed moral, satisfaction.
Work results
The Gita further explains the theory of “detachment” from the extrinsic rewards of work in saying:
· If the result of sincere effort is a success, the entire credit should not be appropriated by the doer alone.
· If the result of sincere effort is a failure, then too the entire blame does not accrue to the doer.
The former attitude mollifies arrogance and conceit while the latter prevents excessive despondency, de-motivation and self-pity. Thus both these dispositions safeguard the doer against psychological vulnerability, the cause of the modem managers' companions of diabetes, high blood pressure and ulcers.
Assimilation of the ideas of the Gita leads us to the wider spectrum of “lokasamgraha” (general welfare) but there is also another dimension to the work ethic - if the “karmayoga” (service) is blended with “bhaktiyoga” (devotion), then the work itself becomes worship, a “sevayoga" (service for its own sake.)
Along with bhakti yoga as a means of liberation, the Gita espouses the doctrine of nishkamya karma or pure action untainted by hankering after the fruits resulting from that action. Modern scientists have now understood the intuitive wisdom of that action in a new light.

Scientists at the US National Institute of Mental Health in Bethesda, found that laboratory monkeys that started out as procrastinators, became efficient workers after they received brain injections that suppressed a gene linked to their ability to anticipate a reward.The scientists reported that the work ethic of rhesus macaques wasn't all that different from that of many people: "If the reward is not immediate, you procrastinate", Dr Richmond told LA Times.
(This may sound a peculiarly religious idea but it has a wider application. It could be taken to mean doing something because it is worthwhile, to serve others, to make the world a better place – ed.)
Manager's mental health
Sound mental health is the very goal of any human activity - more so management. Sound mental health is that state of mind which can maintain a calm, positive poise, or regain it when unsettled, in the midst of all the external vagaries of work life and social existence. Internal constancy and peace are the pre-requisites for a healthy stress-free mind.
Some of the impediments to sound mental health are:
· Greed - for power, position, prestige and money.
· Envy - regarding others' achievements, success, rewards.
· Egotism - about one's own accomplishments.
· Suspicion, anger and frustration.
· Anguish through comparisons.
The driving forces in today's businesses are speed and competition. There is a distinct danger that these forces cause erosion of the moral fibre, that in seeking the end, one permits oneself immoral means - tax evasion, illegitimate financial holdings, being “economical with the truth”, deliberate oversight in the audit, too-clever financial reporting and so on. This phenomenon may be called as “yayati syndrome”.
In the book, the Mahabharata, we come across a king by the name of Yayati who, in order to revel in the endless enjoyment of flesh exchanged his old age with the youth of his obliging youngest son for a thousand years. However, he found the pursuit of sensual enjoyments ultimately unsatisfying and came back to his son pleading him to take back his youth. This “yayati syndrome” shows the conflict between externally directed acquisitions (extrinsic motivation) and inner value and conscience (intrinsic motivation.)
Management needs those who practise what they preach
“Whatever the excellent and best ones do, the commoners follow,” says Sri Krishna in the Gita. The visionary leader must be a missionary, extremely practical, intensively dynamic and capable of translating dreams into reality. This dynamism and strength of a true leader flows from an inspired and spontaneous motivation to help others. "I am the strength of those who are devoid of personal desire and attachment. O Arjuna, I am the legitimate desire in those, who are not opposed to righteousness," says Sri Krishna in the 10th Chapter of the Gita.
In conclusion
The despondency of Arjuna in the first chapter of the Gita is typically human. Sri Krishna, by sheer power of his inspiring words, changes Arjuna's mind from a state of inertia to one of righteous action, from the state of what the French philosophers call “anomie” or even alienation, to a state of self-confidence in the ultimate victory of “dharma” (ethical action.)
When Arjuna got over his despondency and stood ready to fight, Sri Krishna reminded him of the purpose of his new-found spirit of intense action - not for his own benefit, not for satisfying his own greed and desire, but for the good of many, with faith in the ultimate victory of ethics over unethical actions and of truth over untruth.
Sri Krishna's advice with regard to temporary failures is, “No doer of good ever ends in misery.” Every action should produce results. Good action produces good results and evil begets nothing but evil. Therefore, always act well and be rewarded.
My purport is not to suggest discarding of the Western model of efficiency, dynamism and striving for excellence but to tune these ideals to India's holistic attitude of “lokasangraha” - for the welfare of many, for the good of many. There is indeed a moral dimension to business life. What we do in business is no different, in this regard, to what we do in our personal lives. The means do not justify the ends. Pursuit of results for their own sake, is ultimately self-defeating. (“Profit,” said Matsushita-san in another tradition, “is the reward of correct behaviour.” – ed.)
A note on the word "yoga".
Yoga has two different meanings - a general meaning and a technical meaning. The general meaning is the joining together or union of any two or more things. The technical meaning is “a state of stability and peace and the means or practices which lead to that state." The Bhagavad Gita uses the word with both meanings.

M.P.Bhattathiri.

Let us go through what scholars say about Holy Gita.


"No work in all Indian literature is more quoted, because none is better loved, in the West, than the Bhagavad-gita. Translation of such a work demands not only knowledge of Sanskrit, but an inward sympathy with the theme and a verbal artistry. For the poem is a symphony in which God is seen in all things. . . . The Swami does a real service for students by investing the beloved Indian epic with fresh meaning. Whatever our outlook may be, we should all be grateful for the labor that has lead to this illuminating work."

Dr. Geddes MacGregor, Emeritus Distinguished Professor of Philosophy University of Southern California


"The Gita can be seen as the main literary support for the great religious civilization of India, the oldest surviving culture in the world. The present translation and commentary is another manifestation of the permanent living importance of the Gita."

Thomas Merton, Theologian


"I am most impressed with A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada's scholarly and authoritative edition of Bhagavad-gita. It is a most valuable work for the scholar as well as the layman and is of great utility as a reference book as well as a textbook. I promptly recommend this edition to my students. It is a beautifully done book."

Dr. Samuel D. Atkins Professor of Sanskrit, Princeton University


"As a successor in direct line from Caitanya, the author of Bhagavad-gita As It Is is entitled, according to Indian custom, to the majestic title of His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada. The great interest that his reading of the Bhagavad-gita holds for us is that it offers us an authorized interpretation according to the principles of the Caitanya tradition."

Olivier Lacombe Professor of Sanskrit and Indology, Sorbonne University, Paris


"I have had the opportunity of examining several volumes published by the Bhaktivedanta Book Trust and have found them to be of excellent quality and of great value for use in college classes on Indian religions. This is particularly true of the BBT edition and translation of the Bhagavad-gita."

Dr. Frederick B. Underwood Professor of Religion, Columbia University


"If truth is what works, as Pierce and the pragmatists insist, there must be a kind of truth in the Bhagavad-gita As It Is, since those who follow its teachings display a joyous serenity usually missing in the bleak and strident lives of contemporary people."

Dr. Elwin H. Powell Professor of Sociology State University of New York, Buffalo


"There is little question that this edition is one of the best books available on the Gita and devotion. Prabhupada's translation is an ideal blend of literal accuracy and religious insight."

Dr. Thomas J. Hopkins Professor of Religion, Franklin and Marshall College


"The Bhagavad-gita, one of the great spiritual texts, is not as yet a common part of our cultural milieu. This is probably less because it is alien per se than because we have lacked just the kind of close interpretative commentary upon it that Swami Bhaktivedanta has here provided, a commentary written from not only a scholar's but a practitioner's, a dedicated lifelong devotee's point of view."

Denise Levertov, Poet


"The increasing numbers of Western readers interested in classical Vedic thought have been done a service by Swami Bhaktivedanta. By bringing us a new and living interpretation of a text already known to many, he has increased our understanding manyfold."

Dr. Edward C Dimock, Jr. Department of South Asian Languages and Civilization University of Chicago


"The scholarly world is again indebted to A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada. Although Bhagavad-gita has been translated many times, Prabhupada adds a translation of singular importance with his commentary."

Dr. J. Stillson Judah, Professor of the History of Religions and Director of Libraries Graduate Theological Union, Berkeley, California


"Srila Prabhupada's edition thus fills a sensitive gap in France, where many hope to become familiar with traditional Indian thought, beyond the commercial East-West hodgepodge that has arisen since the time Europeans first penetrated India.
"Whether the reader be an adept of Indian spiritualism or not, a reading of the Bhagavad-gita As It Is will be extremely profitable. For many this will be the first contact with the true India, the ancient India, the eternal India."

Francois Chenique, Professor of Religious Sciences Institute of Political Studies, Paris, France
"It was as if an empire spoke to us, nothing small or unworthy, but large, serene, consistent, the voice of an old intelligence which in another age and climate had pondered and thus disposed of the same questions which exercise us"
Emerson's reaction to the Gita


"As a native of India now living in the West, it has given me much grief to see so many of my fellow countrymen coming to the West in the role of gurus and spiritual leaders. For this reason, I am very excited to see the publication of Bhagavad-gita As It Is by Sri A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada. It will help to stop the terrible cheating of false and unauthorized 'gurus' and 'yogis' and will give an opportunity to all people to understand the actual meaning of Oriental culture."

Dr. Kailash Vajpeye, Director of Indian Studies Center for Oriental Studies, The University of Mexico
"The Gita is one of the clearest and most comprehensive one, of the summaries and systematic spiritual statements
of the perennial philosophy ever to have been done" __________________________________________Aldous Huxley


"It is a deeply felt, powerfully conceived and beautifully explained work. I don't know whether to praise more this translation of the Bhagavad-gita, its daring method of explanation, or the endless fertility of its ideas. I have never seen any other work on the Gita with such an important voice and style. . . . It will occupy a significant place in the intellectual and ethical life of modern man for a long time to come."

Dr. Shaligram Shukla Professor of Linguistics, Georgetown University


"I can say that in the Bhagavad-gita As It Is I have found explanations and answers to questions I had always posed regarding the interpretations of this sacred work, whose spiritual discipline I greatly admire. If the aesceticism and ideal of the apostles which form the message of the Bhagavad-gita As It Is were more widespread and more respected, the world in which we live would be transformed into a better, more fraternal place."

Dr. Paul Lesourd, Author Professeur Honoraire, Catholic University of Paris


"When I read the Bhagavad-Gita and reflect about how God created this universe everything else seems so superfluous."

Albert Einstein


"When doubts haunt me, when disappointments stare me in the face, and I see not one ray of hope on the horizon, I turn to Bhagavad-gita and find a verse to comfort me; and I immediately begin to smile in the midst of overwhelming sorrow. Those who meditate on the Gita will derive fresh joy and new meanings from it every day."

Mahatma Gandhi

"In the morning I bathe my intellect in the stupendous and cosmogonal philosophy of the Bhagavad-gita, in comparison with which our modern world and its literature seem puny and trivial."

Henry David Thoreau

"The Bhagavad-Gita has a profound influence on the spirit of mankind by its devotion to God which is manifested by actions."

Dr. Albert Schweitzer

"The Bhagavad-Gita is a true scripture of the human race a living creation rather than a book, with a new message for every age and a new meaning for every civilization."

Sri Aurobindo

"The idea that man is like unto an inverted tree seems to have been current in by gone ages. The link with Vedic conceptions is provided by Plato in his Timaeus in which it states 'behold we are not an earthly but a heavenly plant.' This correlation can be discerned by what Krishna expresses in chapter 15 of Bhagavad-Gita."

Carl Jung


"The Bhagavad-Gita deals essentially with the spiritual foundation of human existence. It is a call of action to meet the obligations and duties of life; yet keeping in view the spiritual nature and grander purpose of the universe."

Prime Minister Nehru


"The marvel of the Bhagavad-Gita is its truly beautiful revelation of life's wisdom which enables philosophy to blossom into religion."

Herman Hesse


"I owed a magnificent day to the Bhagavad-gita. It was the first of books; it was as if an empire spoke to us, nothing small or unworthy, but large, serene, consistent, the voice of an old intelligence which in another age and climate had pondered and thus disposed of the same questions which exercise us."

Ralph Waldo Emerson

"In order to approach a creation as sublime as the Bhagavad-Gita with full understanding it is necessary to attune our soul to it."

Rudolph Steiner


"From a clear knowledge of the Bhagavad-Gita all the goals of human existence become fulfilled. Bhagavad-Gita is the manifest quintessence of all the teachings of the Vedic scriptures."

Adi Shankara


"The Bhagavad-Gita is the most systematic statement of spiritual evolution of endowing value to mankind. It is one of the most clear and comprehensive summaries of perennial philosophy ever revealed; hence its enduring value is subject not only to India but to all of humanity."

Aldous Huxley


"The Bhagavad-Gita was spoken by Lord Krishna to reveal the science of devotion to God which is the essence of all spiritual knowledge. The Supreme Lord Krishna's primary purpose for descending and incarnating is relieve the world of any demoniac and negative, undesirable influences that are opposed to spiritual development, yet simultaneously it is His incomparable intention to be perpetually within reach of all humanity."

Ramanuja

The Bhagavad-Gita is not seperate from the Vaishnava philosophy and the Srimad Bhagavatam fully reveals the true import of this doctrine which is transmigation of the soul. On perusal of the first chapter of Bhagavad-Gita one may think that they are advised to engage in warfare. When the second chapter has been read it can be clearly understood that knowledge and the soul is the ultimate goal to be attained. On studying the third chapter it is apparent that acts of righteousness are also of high priority. If we continue and patiently take the time to complete the Bhagavad-Gita and try to ascertain the truth of its closing chapter we can see that the ultimate conclusion is to relinquish all the conceptualized ideas of religion which we possess and fully surrender directly unto the Supreme Lord.

Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati


"The Mahabharata has all the essential ingredients necessary to evolve and protect humanity and that within it the Bhagavad-Gita is the epitome of the Mahabharata just as ghee is the essence of milk and pollen is the essence of flowers."

Madhvacarya
Yoga has two different meanings - a general meaning and a technical meaning. The general meaning is the joining together or union of any two or more things. The technical meaning is “a state of stability and peace and the means or practices which lead to that state." The Bhagavad Gita uses the word with both meanings. Lord Krishna is real Yogi who can maintain a peaceful mind in the midst of any crisis."

Mata Amritanandamayi Devi.

Karma, Bhakti, and Jnana are but three paths to this end. And common to all the three is renunciation. Renounce the desires, even of going to heaven, for every desire related with body and mind creates bondage. Our focus of action is neither to save the humanity nor to engage in social reforms, not to seek personal gains, but to realize the indwelling Self itself.
Swami Vivekananda (England, London; 1895-96 )

"Science describes the structures and processess; philosophy attempts at their explaination.-----
When such a perfect combination of both science and philosophy is sung to perfection that Krishna was,
we have in this piece of work an appeal both to the head annd heart. " ____________Swamy Chinmayanand on Gita
I seek that Divine Knowledge by knowing which nothing remains to be known!' For such a person knowledge and ignorance has only one meaning: Have you knowledge of God? If yes, you a Jnani! If not, you are ignorant.As said in the Gita, chapter XIII/11, knowledge of Self, observing everywhere the object of true Knowledge i.e. God, all this is declared to be true Knowledge (wisdom); what is contrary to this is ignorance."
Sri Ramakrishna .
Maharishi calls the Bhagavad-Gita the essence of Vedic Literature and a complete guide to practical life. It provides “all that is needed to raise the consciousness of man to the highest possible level.” Maharishi reveals the deep, universal truths of life that speak to the needs and aspirations of everyone.
Maharshi Mahesh Yogi
The Gita was preached as a preparatory lesson for living worldly life with an eye to Release, Nirvana. My last prayer to everyone, therefore, is that one should not fail to thoroughly understand this ancient science of worldly life as early as possible in one’s life.
--- Lokmanya Tilak
I believe that in all the living languages of the world, there is no book so full of true knowledge, and yet so handy. It teaches self-control, austerity, non-violence, compassion, obedience to the call of duty for the sake of duty, and putting up a fight against unrighteousness (Adharma). To my knowledge, there is no book in the whole range of the world’s literature so high above as the Bhagavad-Gita, which is the treasure-house of Dharma nor only for the Hindus but foe all mankind.
--- M. M. Malaviya


ref. bbt.org, kamakoti.org, amritapuri.org, mahrshi.com, sai.org,chinmaya.org, vivekanada.org,neovedanta/gospel.com,spirituality.indiatimes.com

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Indigo Tower SG Impressions 58 phases -2 Raj Nagar Extension Ghaziabad, offers budget homes with facilities that fulfill the aspirations and demands of today's home seekers.
The project Ivory Tower coming up at Raj Nagar Extension, Ghaziabad on NH-58.The said project is in the same location as of Impressions compelled the group to launch another project In the form of tower, under phase 2 in the same locality of Raj Nagar Extension, Ghaziabad.

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http://sgimpressions58.com/lp/ivory.html
http://sgimpressions58.com/lp/indigo.html

SG ESTATES LTD
105-106, Deepshikha Tower, Rajendera Place, New Delhi-110008
Telephone: 011-42323230 (Hunting Lines)
Fax: 011-42323244
Email: -info@sgestates.in
Call@ 9999008503
http://sgimpressions58.com
http://www.sgestates.in/

4:36 AM  
Blogger Rahul said...

Projects in Raj Nagar Extension

Indigo Tower SG Impressions 58 phases -2 Raj Nagar Extension Ghaziabad, offers budget homes with facilities that fulfill the aspirations and demands of today's home seekers.

The project Ivory Tower coming up at Raj Nagar Extension, Ghaziabad on NH-58.The said project is in the same location as of Impressions compelled the group to launch another project In the form of tower, under phase 2 in the same locality of Raj Nagar Extension, Ghaziabad.
Keywords-> Flat in Ghaziabad, Project in Ghaziabad, Raj Nagar Ghaziabad, SG Impressions 58, SG Impressions Raj Nagar Extension

http://sgimpressions58.com/lp/ivory.html
http://sgimpressions58.com/lp/indigo.html
Contact Us
SG ESTATES LTD
105-106, Deepshikha Tower, Rajendera Place, New Delhi-110008
Telephone: 011-42323230 (Hunting Lines)
Fax: 011-42323244
Email: -info@sgestates.in
Call@ 9999008503
http://sgimpressions58.com
http://www.sgestates.in/

5:17 AM  
Blogger Rahul said...

Projects in Raj Nagar Extension

Indigo Tower SG Impressions 58 phases -2 Raj Nagar Extension Ghaziabad, offers budget homes with facilities that fulfill the aspirations and demands of today's home seekers.

The project Ivory Tower coming up at Raj Nagar Extension, Ghaziabad on NH-58.The said project is in the same location as of Impressions compelled the group to launch another project In the form of tower, under phase 2 in the same locality of Raj Nagar Extension, Ghaziabad.
Keywords-> Flat in Ghaziabad, Project in Ghaziabad, Raj Nagar Ghaziabad, SG Impressions 58, SG Impressions Raj Nagar Extension

http://sgimpressions58.com/lp/ivory.html
http://sgimpressions58.com/lp/indigo.html
Contact Us
SG ESTATES LTD
105-106, Deepshikha Tower, Rajendera Place, New Delhi-110008
Telephone: 011-42323230 (Hunting Lines)
Fax: 011-42323244
Email: -info@sgestates.in
Call@ 9999008503
http://sgimpressions58.com
http://www.sgestates.in/

5:20 AM  
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